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	<title>Comments on: DTSP Parking Study</title>
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		<title>By: David Rice</title>
		<link>http://hbneighbors.com/2010/03/05/dtsp-parking-study/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Rice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John - yes all great points. A few comments;

While I agree that cars searching for parking on Main is a problem, I see the larger problem is that Main Street is a destination for &quot;cruisers&quot;. I spend a great deal of time on Main and the pier plaza area. Most of the drivers; old, young, male and female of hot rods, rice rockets, harley&#039;s, tuners, etc. visit to be seen/noticed and make noise. Anyone who visits downtown on a regular basis knows you can&#039;t find parking on Main and to avoid it. Most of those who use it don&#039;t intend on parking there. 

One fear (of many associated with the DTSP) is that this problem of noise and traffic will extend onto 5th, 6th, 3rd, etc. The EIR does not analyze any of the REAL noise problems (ear piercing 110 db harley&#039;s and raced out supper cars without mufflers, etc.) that will absolutely extend beyond Main.

Remote parking as suggested in the DTSP could help with major events - but the people who live in the area&#039;s where the remote parking lots were proposed should have been notified of the EIR and DTSP - they were not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; yes all great points. A few comments;</p>
<p>While I agree that cars searching for parking on Main is a problem, I see the larger problem is that Main Street is a destination for &#8220;cruisers&#8221;. I spend a great deal of time on Main and the pier plaza area. Most of the drivers; old, young, male and female of hot rods, rice rockets, harley&#8217;s, tuners, etc. visit to be seen/noticed and make noise. Anyone who visits downtown on a regular basis knows you can&#8217;t find parking on Main and to avoid it. Most of those who use it don&#8217;t intend on parking there. </p>
<p>One fear (of many associated with the DTSP) is that this problem of noise and traffic will extend onto 5th, 6th, 3rd, etc. The EIR does not analyze any of the REAL noise problems (ear piercing 110 db harley&#8217;s and raced out supper cars without mufflers, etc.) that will absolutely extend beyond Main.</p>
<p>Remote parking as suggested in the DTSP could help with major events &#8211; but the people who live in the area&#8217;s where the remote parking lots were proposed should have been notified of the EIR and DTSP &#8211; they were not.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rice</title>
		<link>http://hbneighbors.com/2010/03/05/dtsp-parking-study/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Rice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good suggestion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: John Scandura</title>
		<link>http://hbneighbors.com/2010/03/05/dtsp-parking-study/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Scandura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately there is no &quot;silver bullet&quot; solution to the downtown parking. I believe the new parking strategies should focus on reducing parking congestion during the summer, major events, and some non-summer weekends. 

Section 5.6.3. of the recently approved Downtown Specific Plan has some ideas worth exploring. For instance, a well designed permit system in residential areas can prevent parking encroachment by visitors in residential neighborhoods during the summer (such a system must be well designed to address concerns I raised about permits in the Planning Commission meeting).  Shuttle access from remote parking lots can reduce parking demands during major events (H.B. Surfing Open) and hot summer weekends. Some underutilized parking lots and parcels in the downtown can be used for visitor parking on a pay basis on evenings and weekends. Having downtown employees park in underutilized parking garages (like Plaza Almeria) or the aforementioned parcels can reduce parking congestion on streets around the downtown. Once constructed, the 1776 parking spaces in Pacific City can help alleviate the downtown parking problem, particularly if there is a good shuttle service between the downtown and Pacific City. 

Much of the traffic congestion on Main Street is caused by people searching for parking or backing out of parking spaces on Main Street. I know the downtown businesses have opposed this, but we need to rethink having parking on Main Street south of Orange. Most visitors already walk some distance to get to a business on Main because the chances of securing a parking space is very small even during the off-season. Getting visitors to park in parking garages, beach parking lots (except during the summer), and remote lots serviced by shuttles instead of on Main Street can do much to reduce the congestion on that street.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately there is no &#8220;silver bullet&#8221; solution to the downtown parking. I believe the new parking strategies should focus on reducing parking congestion during the summer, major events, and some non-summer weekends. </p>
<p>Section 5.6.3. of the recently approved Downtown Specific Plan has some ideas worth exploring. For instance, a well designed permit system in residential areas can prevent parking encroachment by visitors in residential neighborhoods during the summer (such a system must be well designed to address concerns I raised about permits in the Planning Commission meeting).  Shuttle access from remote parking lots can reduce parking demands during major events (H.B. Surfing Open) and hot summer weekends. Some underutilized parking lots and parcels in the downtown can be used for visitor parking on a pay basis on evenings and weekends. Having downtown employees park in underutilized parking garages (like Plaza Almeria) or the aforementioned parcels can reduce parking congestion on streets around the downtown. Once constructed, the 1776 parking spaces in Pacific City can help alleviate the downtown parking problem, particularly if there is a good shuttle service between the downtown and Pacific City. </p>
<p>Much of the traffic congestion on Main Street is caused by people searching for parking or backing out of parking spaces on Main Street. I know the downtown businesses have opposed this, but we need to rethink having parking on Main Street south of Orange. Most visitors already walk some distance to get to a business on Main because the chances of securing a parking space is very small even during the off-season. Getting visitors to park in parking garages, beach parking lots (except during the summer), and remote lots serviced by shuttles instead of on Main Street can do much to reduce the congestion on that street.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Rainsberger</title>
		<link>http://hbneighbors.com/2010/03/05/dtsp-parking-study/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela Rainsberger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kirk, There was a parking study done that illustrates where people park on a typical weekend night, on the hour, each hour.  I&#039;ll post the image of this study this morning so people will not need to hunt for it.  A plan to get 75% of the residents to participate in the program will require an army of volunteers to organize. Another option is to have the city institute the parking plan without the participation requirements.  This is one of our goals. Angela]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kirk, There was a parking study done that illustrates where people park on a typical weekend night, on the hour, each hour.  I&#8217;ll post the image of this study this morning so people will not need to hunt for it.  A plan to get 75% of the residents to participate in the program will require an army of volunteers to organize. Another option is to have the city institute the parking plan without the participation requirements.  This is one of our goals. Angela</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Nason</title>
		<link>http://hbneighbors.com/2010/03/05/dtsp-parking-study/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirk Nason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something has to be done for the number street residents, permit parking with marked spots is the correct path.  I am tired of damage to family and friends cars as non-residents cram their cars into spots they don&#039;t belong in.  I am tired of the trash &amp; diapers dumped in our streets and alleys.  I am tired of urination, defecation and fornication by the drunks walking to their cars at 2am distrubing the peace as they yell into their cell phones.  I have young children that have experienced sleeping drunks in our alleys,  used condoms in our planters, cuts from broken beer and booze bottles. I don&#039;t want my tax dollars wasted removing &quot;tagging&quot; on our homes, walls and sidewalks.    If permit parking is covered on all numbered streets and far enough up Main to support a certain range of non-number streets, the walking distance will be just to far for these idiots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something has to be done for the number street residents, permit parking with marked spots is the correct path.  I am tired of damage to family and friends cars as non-residents cram their cars into spots they don&#8217;t belong in.  I am tired of the trash &amp; diapers dumped in our streets and alleys.  I am tired of urination, defecation and fornication by the drunks walking to their cars at 2am distrubing the peace as they yell into their cell phones.  I have young children that have experienced sleeping drunks in our alleys,  used condoms in our planters, cuts from broken beer and booze bottles. I don&#8217;t want my tax dollars wasted removing &#8220;tagging&#8221; on our homes, walls and sidewalks.    If permit parking is covered on all numbered streets and far enough up Main to support a certain range of non-number streets, the walking distance will be just to far for these idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: normnewland</title>
		<link>http://hbneighbors.com/2010/03/05/dtsp-parking-study/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[normnewland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe Carchio, I know you are running again, but please if you are reading........ please do not offer any solutions.  I have limited time on this planet.  If I hear you say “It’s only a temporary fix, we can go back and change it later” again, I may take my own life.  I’m done with temporary fixes.  We need a well thought out long term plan.  Norm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Carchio, I know you are running again, but please if you are reading&#8230;&#8230;.. please do not offer any solutions.  I have limited time on this planet.  If I hear you say “It’s only a temporary fix, we can go back and change it later” again, I may take my own life.  I’m done with temporary fixes.  We need a well thought out long term plan.  Norm</p>
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		<title>By: Blair Farley</title>
		<link>http://hbneighbors.com/2010/03/05/dtsp-parking-study/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blair Farley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The In-Lieu program is not bad in and of itself. It just needs to be able to provide the service that the In-Lieu payment is received for. If the City has no prospect for construction of parking in the Downtown, then it needs to suspend the program in the DTSP area.

Here is why the current Council would never do that. The In-Lieu spots are actually a bargaining chip used in negotiations. The City will often allow an In-Lieu fee to be paid, but not collect it all at once. They will often allow it to be paid over a number of years. They do this right now since for the most part they know it will never go toward anything.

To truly make the program function, the money should be held on an area by area basis and have a requirement that the money be spent within a limited period of time from being paid. And the money should be paid before the Certificate of Occupancy is granted. That way In-Lieu money paid in Downtown would stay in Downtown and the money would come in around the same time as the cars the business would generate. If the money cannot be expended within the time period then the City should no accept In-Lieu payments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The In-Lieu program is not bad in and of itself. It just needs to be able to provide the service that the In-Lieu payment is received for. If the City has no prospect for construction of parking in the Downtown, then it needs to suspend the program in the DTSP area.</p>
<p>Here is why the current Council would never do that. The In-Lieu spots are actually a bargaining chip used in negotiations. The City will often allow an In-Lieu fee to be paid, but not collect it all at once. They will often allow it to be paid over a number of years. They do this right now since for the most part they know it will never go toward anything.</p>
<p>To truly make the program function, the money should be held on an area by area basis and have a requirement that the money be spent within a limited period of time from being paid. And the money should be paid before the Certificate of Occupancy is granted. That way In-Lieu money paid in Downtown would stay in Downtown and the money would come in around the same time as the cars the business would generate. If the money cannot be expended within the time period then the City should no accept In-Lieu payments.</p>
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		<title>By: hbclem</title>
		<link>http://hbneighbors.com/2010/03/05/dtsp-parking-study/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hbclem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From many of the posts on HBNEIGHBORS, HBDRA and past council comments there seems to be a consensus that the in-lieu fees charged for parking is not working. It&#039;s not working because the city won&#039;t or can&#039;t find property on which to put parking on. 
So what do we do and how do we do it. Do we cancel the program, if so how. Do we modify it,  if so how. Or do we just do nothing and let the problem get even worst. And what do we do with all the money in the in-lieu account? Maybe we can use it for the downtown parking permit program since the in-lieu fee program is partly responsible for creating the problem in the first place. 

It will be interesting to see what ideas are out there, especially from the Council candidates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From many of the posts on HBNEIGHBORS, HBDRA and past council comments there seems to be a consensus that the in-lieu fees charged for parking is not working. It&#8217;s not working because the city won&#8217;t or can&#8217;t find property on which to put parking on.<br />
So what do we do and how do we do it. Do we cancel the program, if so how. Do we modify it,  if so how. Or do we just do nothing and let the problem get even worst. And what do we do with all the money in the in-lieu account? Maybe we can use it for the downtown parking permit program since the in-lieu fee program is partly responsible for creating the problem in the first place. </p>
<p>It will be interesting to see what ideas are out there, especially from the Council candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rice</title>
		<link>http://hbneighbors.com/2010/03/05/dtsp-parking-study/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Rice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have an idea - I will volunteer to contract with the city. I will start a company to handle downtown permit parking, pay for the signage and implementation, hire and staff the enforcement team and I will collect the citation fees. With no cost to the residents, I bet I could retire in a year or two...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea &#8211; I will volunteer to contract with the city. I will start a company to handle downtown permit parking, pay for the signage and implementation, hire and staff the enforcement team and I will collect the citation fees. With no cost to the residents, I bet I could retire in a year or two&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: normnewland</title>
		<link>http://hbneighbors.com/2010/03/05/dtsp-parking-study/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[normnewland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is with the number taverns more than the parking.  If we give the patrons more parking then we will end up with more bars.  Why don&#039;t we give them less parking and smother out some of the kiddie bars.  Let’s make a point and all park our cars overnight in the structures on Saint Patrick’s day and then walk home.  I would like to be proud of my downtown and feel it is safe to walk down to Longboard’s for a drink after dark.  Norm Newland]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is with the number taverns more than the parking.  If we give the patrons more parking then we will end up with more bars.  Why don&#8217;t we give them less parking and smother out some of the kiddie bars.  Let’s make a point and all park our cars overnight in the structures on Saint Patrick’s day and then walk home.  I would like to be proud of my downtown and feel it is safe to walk down to Longboard’s for a drink after dark.  Norm Newland</p>
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